Weekly Wrap Up [Jan16-Jan23]

My gold making has been looking pretty sparse lately, with nothing but pets filling the sales queue, but it has given me a lot of time to work on my characters and enjoy the game for a while, which I’m glad of.

This week I saw 659k profit, 719k in sales, and spent 60k (mostly on leveling up some professions and crafting a few spark items for alts). I know there’s a LOT of gold making potential coming up tomorrow (Tuesday) with the 10.0.5 patch, and I’m INCREDIBLY excited – but I’ve also prepared zilch. Zero. Nada.

Some sure hits? The legendary base items (mail and plate) from Shadowlands – this will grant you mythic transmog. More hits? Grey/white items will be items you can (finally) transmog, and people are going to be on the hunt for them. I meant to run through a bunch of dungeons and pick some up, but life got away from me (again). I hope everyone else out there is preparing better than I have!

Taking a look at sales – pets. Pets continue to dominate my sales. Since that’s what I’ve been spending most of my focus towards, it’s no real surprise. Crafting orders are also still dominating the charts.

I imagine the amount of gold I make from public orders will change once we’re limited from 20 to 4 – I’m not a fan of this change, I don’t think it will do what Blizzard expects it to do. I wish professions were made more evenly, I don’t see a reason to ask someone else to craft things for me in a lot of professions. I think that’s why there’s a lack of public orders. JC/Insc/Eng have all treated me very well. The others, not so much. I haven’t had an MS relapse in a little while, so I’m always on the lookout for that, if it happens I’ll most likely be going back to fishing (I’m not even sure how much profit fishing is giving these days, I’ve had such a good run with no relapses I haven’t had to do any fishing for a few weeks!)

I’m trying to get my paladin caught up with all the things out there, and then I can focus a bit more on making gold. In the meantime, at least there will always be pet sales.


As always, happy gaming, no matter where you find yourself.

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An Experiment in Kindness

It bothers me a little bit that we get a weekly quest to complete public orders – some professions have significantly more ‘value’ when it comes to these orders, and for other professions, there’s rarely anything you would ever need. In a lot of cases, players end up sending these craft orders to their alts, and fulfill them that way. I think that’s a poor way to complete a quest – and on some servers I don’t even have any alts. So, I decided to ask on my realm for some help.

I asked in general (since that would target people in valdrakken) for someone to help me out by providing 3 blacksmithing orders. I would compensate for the cost, and provide the materials.

Within less than a minute, I had some personal orders – it had worked! Thanks to the kindness of strangers, my character was able to complete her quest. I even got a little roleplay out of it.

In the main screenshot to this post you can see where 1 person posted 40+ statue orders for the public to complete. They came with a note asking for the orders to be left unless you needed to complete your weekly.

I thought this was a really unique way to give back to the community, but on the same hand, I feel it’s not exactly the way that Blizzard had intended this quest to go. Three of my professions have no issues with this quest – Engineer, JC, and Inscription. The rest, I rarely ever see a public order for, and when I do, everyone else is fighting for them. It’s an important quest, if you miss out, you might feel as though you’re behind. Having alts request the craft order is one method of getting it knocked out of your journal, but it sure doesn’t hurt to be a little creative.

As always, happy gaming! No matter where you find yourself.

Weekly Wrap Up [Jan9-Jan16]

Another Monday means another weekly wrap up! There’s things to keep in mind with these, and the main one is that TSM isn’t tracking crafting orders, and these days a fair portion of gold I make comes from that. This week I earned just over 400k through public and private craft orders. I focus on jewelcrafting (neck/rings), leather working, engineering, and inscription. I have the other professions too but I haven’t been spending much time with them. I’m using the addon ‘accountant’ to track my crafting orders.

I tried to buckle down this week, focusing on my ‘main’ (I use the term loosely) and getting raids & world quests done. My renown levels are not that great, Tuskarr was the easy one since I could just throw gold at it. Everything else is taking some work. On the plus side I’m really enjoying Dragonflight a large amount, on the downside there are not nearly enough hours in a day.

Sales this week were pretty steady. You can see that I’ve moved into selling pets – with moderate success. The numbers are not huge, but they’ll add up and hopefully I’ll learn / get better. I’ve been trying to buy low, sell high, and build up stock. The Dragonflight “Rhinestone” sunglasses also did well this week (but not as well as last week) with another four pairs sold. I know I didn’t keep on top of it as much as I could have.

The prospector’s boots was a flip, I think I bought them for a handful of gold months ago. The haunted steel warboots are blacksmith crafted, and the two blue recipes are from fishing leftovers. I didn’t take any big risks, and I’m OK with that. I know a lot of people are frustrated with their lack of ability to make gold in Dragonflight but I actually think I’ve been doing better than I did in Shadowlands (remember I never touched legendaries in SL). I’m excited for 10.0.5 and I can’t wait to see what new exciting transmog it brings.

As always, happy gaming – no matter where you find yourself!

[Unpopular Opinion] So you Can’t Make Gold in Dragonflight

For the past few weeks I have been listening to people in the WoW econ discord, and on reddit, and on twitter, talking about how it is impossible to make gold with professions in World of Warcraft at the moment because absolutely everything sells for a loss. My unpopular opinion is that this is simply not true. What is true, is that it takes a lot more work and thought to make gold from professions then it did in the past. This isn’t necessarily a bad thing, it makes gold making much more engaging for those who manage to put in the time and effort. Keep in mind that ‘time’ is going to be relevant to how much you want to do, and what sort of server you’re on.

There is one exception to this rule, and I will say that lower population servers do have a much more difficult time simply because there are less people looking for things to be crafted, and more people crafting. My perspective for this post is coming from a medium/high population server.

The first issue – crafting for a loss. Well, if you’re used to simply opening your crafting book, taking a look at your list, crafting that, and then putting it on the auction house – yes, most items sell at a loss. Dragonflight completely changed how we craft, and those basic items we all start with are in low demand and VERY high supply. If this is how you expect to make gold, you will be selling at a loss.

Where Dragonflight actually shines is for those who have put in the work to make connections on their server, or those who manage to camp the work table. I do this for roughly 15 minutes each day on my jewelcrafter, and she has made over 400k in gold from public commissions. I do own the BiS lariat recipe, I also bought the two rings, the titanic & hour-glass. I did not spec down gems. I am spec’d into both rings, necks, and multicraft / inspiration.

So for JC alone, there’s necks, rings, gems, and then there are also some toys you can craft for people if you’re lucky enough to find the recipes. So far I have not managed to get a single one (frustrating). Then there’s the cosmetic items we can make, like the rhinestone sunglasses. Dragonflight has a recipe for those that comes from fishing. I usually sell at least one pair every single day, for 20k. Yes, it takes time or money (or both) to get started, but it’s a goal (I fished mine up). Then there’s the JC that’s selling from previous expansions. That’s right, don’t forge that Dragonflight is not the only expansion out there! For whatever reason, 233 and 262 gear is still selling VERY well on my servers. More so if you include speed sets. Then there’s transmog, battle pets, mounts! DIVERSIFY.

The second issue – You don’t HAVE to be hardcore about any of this. As you can see by the screenshot above, my renown levels are pretty sparse – minus Tuskarr, and that one I did by turning in fish. I also have around 130 JC knowledge points from just casually completing my weekly goals. Yes, I realize this is just one example of a profession, and sadly not all professions are made equal, I will admit to that. My JC is paired with Leatherworking, and I do not make nearly the same amount of gold. I also don’t spend nearly the same amount of time on it, I don’t own LW patterns from expansions gone by, and I don’t check out the LW table very often (most people want that artisan’s sign (toy), go get that and you should be getting lots of orders).

It is NOT too late to start. Be diligent about collecting your knowledge points, and wait for your way in if you’re absolutely certain you can’t make a profit. Check the work order table often! Talk to people in trade chat, let them know what you can craft. Use the crafting sim addon, and use a little research into where you want to spend those points. Stick with it.

Saying there’s absolutely no gold to be made with professions in Dragonflight is just wrong. It does take work. It does take knowing your server, and it does take using a different method that simply “level 1-100, bam, put items on the AH!” but it’s also completely worth it and rewarding. If you’re used to the pre-regional-auction house times, you may also need to simply adjust what your idea of “good gold per hour” is. I’m seeing brand new gold makers upset that they didn’t make a million a day – that is simply an unrealistic expectation. Set yourself with some realistic goals, and you’ll be a lot happier.

As always, happy gaming – no matter where you find yourself!

[RP] Arysh’ Short – 1

Brief glimpses of memories flashed past Arysh’ eyes, each one unrelated to the next.

Sitting on the floor of a room some where she could no longer remember, playing with some toys.
Fire. Burning. A heavy metallic scent in the air.
People screaming. She thought these might be family members, but she wasn’t sure why she thought that.

She tried to block out these thoughts by clenching her eyes shut, and then Arysh sighed when it became obvious that she wasn’t going to be getting any more sleep.
“Fine. Whatever.” She groaned softly and tossed the covers to the side. It was a new day, and she had work to do anyway. Who needed sleep.

Arysh walked over to the window of her sparsely decorated inn room, and drew open the blinds. Below her, the city of Valdrakken was already bustling with early morning vendors trying to hawk their wears. She could almost hear them calling out good morning to each another as they set up their display stands, eagerly waiting for the crowds that would be pushing through. She was hoping to join them, one day. For now she was just hoping to get a job. The partially open bag of gold coins on her desk was a constant reminder that her life savings wasn’t enough to get her very far, and that she had to think of a more permanent solution to her situation, soon.

Weekly Wrap Up [Jan02-Jan09]

** note: This does NOT include craft order money, which was over 300k for the week **

I’m not sure if TSM is tracking the gold made from craft orders (I don’t think it is, I’m using accountant right now to track them), but that’s where most of my focus has been this week – aside from playing the game. I now have 10 characters at level 70, and I took 4 of them through timewalking and raids, and also completed the weekly. I put a few older items up on the AH, but most of my time was spent focusing on a new endevour & creating new characters, which you can see the results of in the item category of my sales.

The “rhinestone” sunglasses from Dragonflight are selling exceptionally well. This recipe has only dropped for me once so far in all of the fishing I’ve done. I’ve done a LOT of fishing. The components required are pretty cheap, and I’m getting a pretty nice profit for each sale. I only put one up at a time, and I just replace it when it sells. On average it’s one pair a day and I’m happy with that.

I also sold a bunch of replica gear that I had sniped for 1s a while back. I’ve been trying to sell this on my low population server for months now, so I’m glad to see it go. There’s a few recipes in there (leftovers from fishing), and some fish, and me clearing out my Shadowlands JC inventory. There’s a few people who like to do cancel scan wars on the AH, and I didn’t feel like participating in that, so I set all of my SL stuff to 115% crafting cost, and just want it out the door. Even on my best of days, cancel scanning is just not something that I enjoy doing.

The WoW token on NA has been VERY low, so I picked up a few and stocked up my bnet balance. I also decided to boost a rogue on my 2nd account to 60, and I moved a DK to my main account and a new server. Overall, I’m pleased with my progress given that very little of my time was actually dedicated to making gold. It felt nice to catch up on some knowledge points (professions) and to clear out some quests. I’m having an absolute blast with Dragonflight, and making gold on top of that is just a really nice perk.

As always, happy gaming, no matter where you find yourself.

It’s Important to Check Before you Post

It is VERY important to check and triple check before you place an item for sale. Whether you’re using a posting string with TSM, using Auctionator, or even just putting your items up for sale using the base UI.

When you use the base UI, a few things happen depending on the item / if there are any for sale. If others are up for sale you’ll price match the last one. The auction house works on a LIFO method “last in first out” so there’s no need to undercut that auction.

The thing is, there are some ‘less desirables’ out there who want to make sure you lose gold. Unpopular opinion here, but I do not condone what these goblins do. They put up ‘bait’ in the auction house. Then the next person who isn’t paying attention comes along and matches their prices – and they attempt to buy out those people. Then they can resell the item for a profit. Personally, these are the sort of goblins that give other goblins a bad name. I don’t think that gold making needs to be done by tricking others or fooling them out of gold. That opinion isn’t shared by everyone, which is fine. It’s simply not a method I use or believe in.

Now, it IS common for people to just naturally make a mistake when putting an item up for sale if they have no idea what the value is – especially if there are zero already for sale. If the item has no others for sale, for example, the default UI will commonly use a very low price from Blizzard. In some other cases people have used their TSM strings to post very expensive items for vendor value (when there are no regional prices, for example, because the item is too new).

You don’t HAVE to post at the default number given – always make sure you check so that you’re not being baited into posting for under the value. In the case of the fluid above, they actually vendor for 62 silver – not a huge amount, but when you bait all day long and occasionally catch thousands of these things being posted, it can apparently pay off.

[Challenge] Expanding to Other Servers with new Characters

In World of Warcraft, I’ve constantly played on low population servers. First it was because I was playing with my husband, then with friends, and then simply because it was comfortable and I was used to it.

The thing is, over the years low population servers have no longer been fun for me to play on (in most cases, there are exceptions). This year I decided it would be a good idea to experiment with higher population servers and see how that goes.

A wise goblin once told me “60 slots – if you aren’t using them you are losing them” so I decided to use my 2nd account and create a character on a whole bunch of servers. I didn’t want to transfer funds to each of these servers, but I wanted to give them some pocket change to play with. This account is also a completely separate battle net from my main account. There are no unlocked allied characters on the horde side.

Right now Blizzard has a promotion going on where you can play Dragonflight with some restrictions if you do not already own Dragonflight. This battlenet does not own the expansion. Normally, one of those restrictions is you can’t make a Dracthyr without first having a level 55 on the server. Thankfully, that rule doesn’t pertain to the promotion.

I created a Dracthyr, and did their first quest. It rewarded 25g. I summoned my mailbox, mailed that to the actual character I wanted to keep, and then deleted. Then I took that 25g to the AH, and in a few seconds (thank you region wide auction house) I flipped it from 25g to 150g. That’s a much nicer number to work with. Recipes and pets only require 1s as a posting fee, and pets can be transferred across servers without any effort.

I haven’t made 60 characters yet, but it’s a start. This is a little more dedicated that I usually am in my gold making, but I do like to challenge myself, so let’s see where this goes. Since it’s my second account it doesn’t really affect my game play at all, and who knows, maybe in time I can work towards being one of the ‘big’ goblins, too.

As always, happy gaming, no matter where you find yourself.

Weekly Wrap Up [Dec19-Dec26]

It’s the last weekly wrap up for 2022! Unfortunately it looks like the TSM ledger is displaying some weirdness, so the stats are not exactly reliable (how do I have almost 500k in sales, 150k in purchases, and come out behind 299k? I am not sure). Despite what that chart says, gold IS going up! This week was a bit slower because of the holidays (and let’s face it, I’ve been playing a huge amount of Dwarf Fortress instead of WoW) but I still found myself having a lot of fun. What sold?

The Dragonflight version of Rhinestone sunglasses have been doing pretty well for me! They’re cheap in cost to make (material wise) and I fished up the recipe very early on. I sold 3 this week, less than the 5 I sold last week but that’s OK. This week I didn’t have any huge expenses like fish for faction. I did buy an ace of earth to boost the ilevel of an alt, but even that was sitting under 30k. I also bought some fish to work on cooking but with everyone home and playing, the prices have been manageable.

Sales I didn’t expect? I’ve actually had a LOT of those.

My tailor made 52k in sales – and none of it was from Dragonflight. She has been selling old world bags, and they have been flying off of the rack. I didn’t expect people to buy them but I sure am glad they did!

TSM is still not working for Dragonflight quality items, but it works perfectly fine for old world items and there’s still a lot of buyers out there! You might recall that I recently moved OFF of one of my low population servers to a medium/high pop – and it was a fantastic decision. I’m so happy playing where I am now. It’s a bit awkward at times for farming (feast, I’m looking at you) so I tend to invite my character back over with my 2nd account to phase to a quieter area, but for the majority of my game time, the change has been awesome.

I haven’t found a home there yet, but I’m taking my time and not immediately jumping into anything.

Yes, it was a great week for World of Warcraft, and now that all 4 of my main crafters have reached 70, I can focus on setting them up properly. So far I’ve done very little Dragonflight crafting. That isn’t a problem for me though. You might recall I also never bothered to get into Shadowlands legendary crafting – and I was still able to make gold. Sure, I’m not making billions, but again for the time invested I’m pretty happy.

As always, happy gaming, no matter where you find yourself!

Weekly Wrap Up [Dec12-Dec19]

This week the ledger painted a much nicer picture, but I still ended up 500,000 gold in debt thanks to fish. I decided to splurge! I bought 10 WoW tokens when they were 150k, and I also bought 100,000 fish to turn in to the Tuskarr folks, climbing from renown 13 to 24. I did also make a lot of sales, earning 1.3 million gold overall. It just wasn’t enough to offset my costs of 1.9 million. Probably the most gold I have spent in a very long time.

I don’t spend a lot of gold. I don’t find myself needing too much and I’m not an end game player so there hasn’t been a reason. I’m sure I can earn this back over the next little while, but it will take some time.

My best sellers this week continue to be Darkmoon cards which I get from fishing, fish, and way up there almost at the top are the Dragonflight ‘Rhinestone’ sunglasses. I got the recipe pretty early on, and I sell a pair or two a day for 20-25k each. The craft cost to these is pretty low, and a few other people have them on my server as well, but I’m thankful for the little bit of coin I get.

I’ve also gone back and started restocking old world materials again. Bags in particular have been HUGE sellers. I’ve even been selling embersilk bags of all things. I don’t know who is buying it (or why) but it’s interesting to me since they’re 22 slots, and sell for just over 2k each. Is it the colour, maybe? They’re a lovely pink shade.

Whatever the reason, the sales have been steady enough that I decided to keep stocking them. Blacksmithing hasn’t been selling nearly as well, but I’m still listing items. I know Dragonflight items tend to sell for the lowest possible price since there are just so many people crafting right now, and I’m only too happy to melt back to older professions to see what people are interested in. With the announcement that grey/white transmog items are becoming BOE (headed to the PTR soon) I expect that people might be out there rounding out their collections.

I’ve heard a lot of people upset about the difficulties they’re having in making gold due to abc123 reason and I just want to say that making gold is very much possible no matter what server you’re on. You may need to adjust your expectations (I see goblins making millions a second, I am not one of those people), you may need to find your niche (ie: don’t follow the throngs of people aimed at a particular crafting spec), you may need to diversify, and you may need alts – but it is absolutely still fantastic gold making out there. Don’t give up.

As always, happy gaming, no matter where you find yourself!